Charities

[scorpion]

Yeah, you can donate to any charity you choose, but we have to make sure that the charity is helping people, not promoting themselves. Moreover, I hope that fxfisherman's users really help other people by themselves. That means users will not going to give any profit to me, so each user has to find appropriate charities to donate to.

Love,
Scorpion

[gazuz]

That should be something signed, a paper should be written somehow to accept that if you are going to run fxfisherman you agree to donate ~11% to a certain group, and if they refuse to do so, then they can be cut off the list... It can be as easy as that, since scorpion wants to have a client server type of progra, then it is a small fee to pay to get an incredible robot (instead of one of those robots where u have to pay ~30$ to the founders of the prog. PER trade). In this case it will just be a flat rate for everyone.

Hope this will help.

btw SJ, the binary says "Success comes with time, so be patient."

[goldstock]

I Agreee Each User Should Donate To The Charity They Thenselfs Choose. I May Want To Donate To More Than One Or Donate To Different Non=profit Orgs Over Time. But I Can See Where A Problem May Arise When Someone Else Is Going To Deside Wheather Or Not My Choise Meets Thier Requirements. I Mean ,only As An Example Please, If I Am Catholic And Sj Wants To Donate To Lds And I'm On The Commitee Thar Makes These Decisions I May Not Think His Is A Good Pick, I Might Say That Catholic Charities Is Better And It's Still A Church Org. So I Think The Donator Should Make That Choise ,,alone, His Or Her Choise From Thier Heart. I Do Agree That It Should Be No Less Than 10% . I Also Agree Donating For The Server , But What About The Operator? I Had Posted Earlier That The Whole Donation Thing Could Be Controlled At The Server Level But This Takes Time And Admin Should Be Comped For His/her Time.

George

[gazuz]

I agree goldstock, but the only problem that comes with that is we are a group. And as a group we must follow certain rules... Maybe it is possible to set a better percentage. But the reason for all this is that this was the main goal of scorpion's when having the idea of the robot. Otherwise I'm sure he could've done it all alone and paid a couple of people to help with the programming. The reason he is giving out the robot is to thank the people that have helped him and to help humanity.

I'm sure that the least you can do for a couple lines of code or for beta testing is have a small fee to pay per month. Here is an exemple I have made, a sort of metaphor:

-You give an orange to peter because he is starving to death one day.
-Peter will not return the favor with an orange farm.

In order to make this work, you share knowledge, in this case money is also involved...

What is happening is that you put a certain amount of money (that would be paid in ~ a month if the pips/day are correct). In a way after a period of time, he GIVES you money, so you need to pay him in a way. But instead of paying him directly, you give in to succesfully accomplish his dream. I personnaly have family in North Africa with first degree cousins. I see kids baking corn on the sidewalk and selling with a small percentage of profit (maybe 25 cents per corn?). It really hurts to know that I am living in america with someone just giving making money with such ease. There is hope, most of them there do not have a house or live under a tent. I know that Tunisia is lacking schools because the government cannot offer free education as well as they can here. This is not only scorpion's dream, but my dream as well.

If someone helps you, its best to have a group of people manage the money (this group) and figure out who to send the money to. I am willing to donate time while scorpion is working on the bot. I am asking around and will start surveys at work, make comparision charts to find out who would be willing to which company. We have become the "Donation Comparison Group".

-Gazuz

[gazuz]

This I think should be our #1 "target". I know that they are reliable (and so do all the US residents). They are also international and really doing everything we want...

http://www.redcross.org/

[SJR3t2]

I beleive that everyone should use be able to choose their own charities. goldstock brings out a very good point. I personaly will donate most of my charity money to LDS church for them to use as they see fit. But I will also do other charities also. Everyone has a different idea of where they want money to go. For the most part, as long as we are trying to be good people, we will all choose good charities. Thru the ages many people have focused on different things to help that thing improve. And those things have hopefuly help people out. But if one person said who gets the money, only one or two things would have been improved, the things close to their hearts. Everyone has different passions and concerns, that is not bad, in fact if everyone works together it is a very good thing. Anyways, my vote is for everyone chooses there own charity. A question how does the founder, scropion want to do it. As in many aspects that can come out with charities.

Steven

[gazuz]

Well I'd love to do that, but my idea was to make sure people were actually donating... Should we post here regularly (stickie the thread) and post how much and to who we donated? I thikn that is what I will start to do and if anyone wants to follow me then please go ahead.

Here is what I am thinking of making it look like:

-Name of charity :
-Amount donated :
-Date money sent :
-Pros :
-Cons :

[SJR3t2]

I will probly follow your lead. But with a slight modification. I wont advertise how much money I am giving them. I think that is personal. And not saying you are doing this, but it can also be used to say I am rich look how much I am giving. That can make people feel bad.

Steven

[gazuz]

Originally Posted by SJR3t7

I will probly follow your lead. But with a slight modification. I wont advertise how much money I am giving them. I think that is personal. And not saying you are doing this, but it can also be used to say I am rich look how much I am giving. That can make people feel bad.

Steven

Hmm, your right I didnt see that view of it.... Any ideas on how to prove that we have donated and that we are using the robot for donation purposes also or is this not necessary to prove?

[SJR3t2]

That is a very sensitive subject. To a certian degree I would say trust people. But some people do not deserve to be trusted, after they have soon that they can not be trusted. At which point I would think Scropion would remove them. But if Scropion wants some way of tracking people and some speficics of how much they make and how much goes to charities, then I would think their would be some private way of doing it. And their should be a commity that can be trusted with sensitive information, to keep their mouths shut, and not to use that information improbrly. And the only people who see the information are those on the commity and the person submitting it. But if it gets to that point how do we know what they are submitting is true. The digital age has made some things very nice today, but it has also made some things harder, such as knowing what someone states is true or not, it is easer to make fake edavance. For the most part my vote is trust people, if for some reason someone looks suspicous, have it taken care of very quitly with them and a trusted commity. Because sometimes even when they look quilty they are innicent, and I think care should be taken to protect the inicent from human fralities, such as judgments that come from someone being accused.

I think the only way to absultly know how much someone is making is to have a group account or have the passwords to their account. And I don't really like the idea of either, but it is up to scropion. Plus even if we know how much they make, do we really know how much they donated.

Anyways I am for trust, untill shown they can't handle it. After that how much effort should we put in past a looking into the matter. Such as if found quilty, do we or scropion still allow them access to the robot.

Steven