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Nobody has ever made money for other people.

This is why today we have shortfalls in pensions worth over trillions of dollars.The people who promised to make money for pension funds squandered 45 % of the world's wealth.

There is no signal service proven to be reliable over many years.They all have a good period , but overall the signals are too late to be of any use, thats why they would rather selling signals to some suckers for a risk free profit.

Why trade the signals with your own money?
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Old 12-20-2009, 02:01 PM
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Nobody has ever made money for other people.

This is why today we have shortfalls in pensions worth over trillions of dollars.The people who promised to make money for pension funds squandered 45 % of the world's wealth.

There is no signal service proven to be reliable over many years.They all have a good period , but overall the signals are too late to be of any use, thats why they would rather selling signals to some suckers for a risk free profit.

Why trade the signals with your own money?

At this point I think you've deviated from your false alarm you were originally trying to insinuate here.


The fact that there is a shortfaill in pension funds and that no body has
ever made money for other people means there is a niche in this regard
for people who want to righteously stand in the gap for other people
to make money for them. It is not a question of whether it has never been
done, it is question of there is a need for this type of service.

There is no need to be disillusion of something that does not come from
you because looking at this forum you posts more on scam than actual
trading. There will always be scam, losses and evil in the market. But out
of that there will always be few and honest service so you got to get use
to it.


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There is no signal service proven to be reliable over many years.They all have a good period , but overall the signals are too late to be of any use, thats why they would rather selling signals to some suckers for a risk free profit.
I think you got the point wrong here again. When a zulutrade signal provider execute trade, in actual sense they are not sending out late signals for people to trade. Their trades are auto-traded the same time for their followers. You really need to study their concept before blowing your
whistle and scaring people away.

To me I will not really look at the technology as a signal service. It is a tool
the brings those who can sincerely stand up in the gap as fund managers to manage funds in their followers brokers' accounts.

Like I mentioned how investors search and chooses their fund managers makes a different. some investors look for face values of signal providers and they get what they are looking for.

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Why trade the signals with your own money?
We could also ask this question the other way round:

Why trade your skills alone for yourself, why not allow people to
share and benefits from your expertise.

Let's face it people come to forum to look for calls, not mainly to learn to trade but look for calls. Do you think people will be wasting their time reinventing the wheel of trading, if they can genuinely find a service like zulutrade?

So there is a need for zulutrade kind of service if render in just way by people providing signals. And this should not be your concern. You do not have the right to condemn a service outright when you do not have sufficient knowledge about how the service works.

It is like the popular TV program: "you think you can dance?" If you think you have a winning trading methodology offer it genuinely to the needy. They will come around to thank you. Simple and don't try to be the judge.

In the years to come, I believe this may be the direction of signal industry and many bad providers will be wash out as such services becomes popular.

Not everyone have the time to trade, but many want to invest in the financial markets. Those who are able to be righteous in providing the service will stand the test of time you are afraid of. There is a huge market in this direction because financial market will not just go away today. People will always want to invest too until the end of times.
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No offense, fxbroker, but this is disturbing me.

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If zulutrade concept is a scam why would fxfisherman be promoting it.
(1) I would like to see a statement of an official of fxfisherman.com about the quote above. Maybe Neo Lee (FxFisherman.com Admin) could shed some light on this kind of promotions?

(2) AFAIK, I did not subscribe to your ZuluTrade newsletter. Did you get my eMail address directly from fxfisherman.com?

(3) I have unsubscribed from your ZuluTrade newsletter repeatedly, but I still keep getting it.
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(1) I would like to see a statement of an official of fxfisherman.com about the quote above.

(2) AFAIK, I did not subscribe to your zulu trade newsletter. Did you get my eMail address directly from fxfisherman.com?

(3) I have unsubscribed from your zulu trade newsletter repeatedly, but I still keep getting it.
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No offense too, which newsletter are you talking about.?

I only sent out email on zulu trade once. Long time ago.

you may want to publish it, cos all email I sent out have unsubscription
I get such emails from other forex traders and brokers, I either keep
them or unsubscribed. I don't see any big deal. If you are already making
money with your trades, no need to squabble about this, or else
Zulutrade is a perfect model to make money.

Can you post when you got one last from me on Zulu Trade?


What is AFAIK, ?


Please I wish you reply back here.
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(1) I would like to see a statement of an official of fxfisherman.com about the quote above. Maybe Neo Lee (FxFisherman.com Admin) could shed some light on this kind of promotions?

(2) AFAIK, I did not subscribe to your ZuluTrade newsletter. Did you get my eMail address directly from fxfisherman.com?

(3) I have unsubscribed from your ZuluTrade newsletter repeatedly, but I still keep getting it.
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For 24 hours I waited for your reply without answer. Which means you are falsefully accusing me or raising false alarm like the guy who started this thread.

Could you kindly offer some apologies?

If I indeed sent you several zulutrade email newsletters can you show them that they originated from me as proof even the one that prompted you to make this claim here.
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Hello fxbroker,

This is my 3rd attempt to get my reply published.

> Could you kindly offer some apologies?
Sure. I'm terribly sorry for letting you wait. Sometimes I have work to do, and I have to set priorities for my tasks.

Here's the information you requested:
> What is AFAIK, ?
AFAIK means "As far as I know".


> I only sent out email on zulu trade once. Long time ago.
> you may want to publish it, ...
I don't keep the emails regarding ZuluTrade.

However, I got one on Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:46:33 +0200 (SAST).
If my memory serves serves me correctly, I tried the unsubscribe link in the ZuluTrade email on this date the first time.

> ... can you show them that they originated from me as proof ...
> ... Can you post when you got one last from me on Zulu Trade?
And here's the most recent email from ZuluTrade:
"Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:22:22 +0200 (SAST)
119,886 Pips Profits For You"

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You wrote me via your PM
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P.S. This is, what I tried to publish:
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Title: ZuluTrade eMails
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Hello fxbroker,

This is my 3rd attempt to get my reply published.

> Could you kindly offer some apologies?
Sure. I'm terribly sorry for letting you wait. Sometimes I have work to do, and I have to set priorities for my tasks.

Here's the information you requested:
> What is AFAIK, ?
AFAIK means "As far as I know".


> I only sent out email on zulu trade once. Long time ago.
> you may want to publish it, ...
I don't keep the emails regarding ZuluTrade.

However, I got one on Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:46:33 +0200 (SAST).
If my memory serves serves me correctly, I tried the unsubscribe link in the ZuluTrade email on this date the first time.

> ... can you show them that they originated from me as proof ...
> ... Can you post when you got one last from me on Zulu Trade?
And here's the most recent email from ZuluTrade:
"Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:22:22 +0200 (SAST)
119,886 Pips Profits For You"

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Image: http://www.fpss.info/zulutradeemail/...MailHeader.gif
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So as you can see from your images above, those emails were not
from me but direct from Fisherman. I get those regularly too, hence
my reply to oilfxpro calling everyone scammers and asking me where and how I got his email.

And also my reply to him too that if zulu trade is scam why is someone
promoting it via fisherman, though I do not know his status in this forum, but
it is contracdictory to calling zulu trade scam.

Now, you joined him without due diligence and addressing me as
someone that sent those emails to you but in real fact they were not
from me. This is also false accusation on your part.

Look I am not against oilfxpro spending all his time digging out
scammers or any other person for that matter, but it is damaging when he wrongly accuse people of scams. Or do it maliciously to make people believe
that he knows all things.

There is no doubt that the industry is full of scammers, and unrighteous trading practices, this in itself present huge opportunity for those who want
to be righteous and know how to be righteous to offer the same services
scammers cannot do righteously. There is a huge potential to
be righteous.

However, if he cannot provide righteous services that can drive scammers away or make their business unprofitable, he can shout
scam, and scam to the end of times, that will not eradicate scam from
the industry.

At anyrate, I thank you for your honesty in digging out the emails, and I hope this cleared things up to other members.

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First of all, yes we send newsletters about ZuluTrade (only two times in the past 6 months). Plus, if you have unsubscribed once, you are off the list for good. There is no point to keep sending emails to those who wish not to receive.

More importantly, I have received a large number of spam emails from this website marketchaos.co.za. The emails do not provide any way to unsubscribe at all.

It's just now that I discovered it belongs to fxbroker. I do not like this at all. This guy sends spams every single day and then point his finger at FxFisherman. Yeah we send newsletters that you can quickly unsubscribe from by clicking the unsubscribe link in the email, and at most we send like one newsletter every three months. But these emails from marketchaos.co.za just come to my inbox every single day! Unbelievable.

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