Astro traders...

[ttt123]

Guys, I just wonder if there are some astro traders, I'm talking about people who uses some ephemeris to find turning points in the trend. I read a book describing a couple of Gann real possitions based on space harmony.
Anybody interested...


REGARDS

[scorpion]

I'm interested. Could you tell me more? I have two great space simulation programs (Cellestia and Stellarium) installed in my pc, so i think it's gonna be easy to observe these.

[Ravique]

Strange, I just posted a reply, but it never came up anyways:

I have played around a lot looking at the reaction of price action to the map of the sky ( Natal Map - a manp where are the planets and thars are reflected ) in the past. The main conclusion is that there is some kind of a system between them, it is visibe, but to get this system right, you need to have at least medium knowledge in astrology ( not astronomy, totally different things ) . There are a lot of objects reflected on the natal map ( i used ZET star processor ) and how they affect the market , is hard to get. There are a lot of commbinations of stars and positions , so you need a big amount of historical data to do a proper research.
Anyways, here was my idea: I figured, if the stars at the start of the day are arrangened in some way, than the price movement during this day will be the same as it was in the day in the past, when at the start of the day the start arrangement was the same. Then I started trying to build that up, and here where the problems begain, because it is very hard to find the day in the past when the stars were arranged like today. So here is an idea:
If you have a start processor with a search module, where you coud just input the combination of all the stars at the start of the day, and search where the arrangement was the same in the past, of close to the same. Then just look up this date in forex historical data, and check how the price moved. It can`t move exactly like this, but the direction should still be the same. Hope this helps somehow.

[ttt123]

Thank you for answering, mates.
There are a lot of things which have to be observed - aspects (angles) between the planets, Moon phases, Moon void-of-course, zero and max/min declination, planetary speed ... I've got Cellestia too but it can show you heliocentric space, in most causes you need geocentric point of view. That's why I get some ephemeris from different sites in the web. There is little difference in them but it's bacause of the software they use, everybody pretend that his is the most accurate.
More for observation:
- Mercury changing speed
- Venus conj. Sun /Geocentric/
- Venus /Heliocentric/ ( 0o ) – 07.07.2006
- Venus-Uranus aspects
- Mars at 16o 35’/sharp time-geocentric/ of any sign
- Moon conj. Mars
- Moon oppos. Mars
- Mars conj. and oppos. Jupiter /geo and helio/
- Mars changing signs /geo and helio/
- Jupiter declination
- Mercury in retrograde motion
- Jupiter retrogrades

My problems are: 1/ I cannot come back to past to see where we have some action, which of these events affect to the market...and 2/ not having enough time to stay in front of the PC.
Every market is affected mostly from a planet or two. We have to find which exactly.

Forgot to ask about "Stellarium"???

REGARDS

[ttt123]

Ravique your idea is very,very interesting. Can you give us any examples? Which stars do you mean /you observe/? some planets ...???


REGARDS

[Ravique]

So here is the program I used : http://www.astrozet.ru/en/
It is a russian program, and I used it in russian, but it is also available in english, a vry comfortable piece of software in my view.

I am attaching two pictures, one is with the natal chart I used, there are the planets the moon and the stars there and their position in different houses, and also their coordinates on the right from the chart.

The second picture is a modue where you can input the date , and it will show the coordinates for that date, the date can be as far in the future so as far in the past.

You can also set the time interval from a second to a year and press the green circle and it will simulate the stars movement in period/second, nice to watch indeed.

[Ravique]

Well as far as I think, we had a discussion with a friend of mine, he is a stock trader, he said that theoretically every stock has a date of birth, so the day it first appeared on the market, so it has a certain astrologihal sign, so you can build a horoscope to it, and ook how it performs.

It this is right, we can assume, that every currency pair also has a "date of birth" a date if first started trading, or maybe not even a currency pair , but just every currency. So let`s assume that some currency or currency pair X apperadd first on in the start of june, so that is the time of gemini, so the planet for gemini is Mercury, so that menas that this pair or currency is affected by mercury . Clear enough ?

I think that the market could be a combination, something like that:
The forex market first appeared sometime, so it has a planet for the market in general
Every currency trading in the market has a date of appearence so that means that every currency has a panet to .
Every pair has a date of appearence , so that menas that every currency pair has a planet to , so we just have to find the date`s of birht of the market the currencyes and the pairs, and check out how the planets performed, and compare with the past.

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by ttt123

Forgot to ask about "Stellarium"???

REGARDS

Stellarium works just like a virtual telescope. You can view sky on a date in the past, present or future from any location on earth by entering latitude & longitude.

Attached are Stellarium screenshots: one with atmosphere, one without atmospere, and another one solar eclipse in 1995.

[ttt123]

Thank you for the pixs Scorpion.
I checked out this "Zet 8". The most interesting for me were the dates of Moon Apogees and Perigees. Don't you think that there are a lot of good entry points among them?

Moon Apogees and Perigees in Year 2004
Apogee(km) Perigee(km)
3.01.2004 20:08 1Gem 4 405734.481 22.12.2003 11:43 17Sgr15 358330.209
31.01.2004 13:54 6Gem11 404843.945 1/ 19.01.2004 19:16 0Cap32 362753.208
28.02.2004 10:42 12Gem28 404298.815 2/ 16.02.2004 7:32 3Cap10 368292.692
27.03.2004 7:03 18Gem30 404559.283 3/ 12.03.2004 3:59 29Sco26 369472.097
24.04.2004 0:31 23Gem24 405433.639 4/ 8.04.2004 2:32 24Sco21 364525.535
21.05.2004 12:12 25Gem52 406281.480 5/ 6.05.2004 4:38 4Sgr41 359799.060
17.06.2004 16:16 24Gem54 406573.561 6/ 3.06.2004 13:17 18Sgr37 357243.418
14.07.2004 21:20 24Gem25 406173.232 7/ 1.07.2004 23:02 3Cap11 357452.425
11.08.2004 9:39 27Gem12 405260.125 8/ 30.07.2004 6:27 16Cap33 360336.381
8.09.2004 2:42 1Cnc54 404425.604 9/ 27.08.2004 5:45 25Cap29 365127.776
5.10.2004 22:08 7Cnc32 404286.622 10/ 22.09.2004 21:03 16Cap16 369624.436
2.11.2004 18:03 13Cnc26 404961.935 11/ 17.10.2004 23:43 15Sgr60 367786.009
30.11.2004 11:13 18Cnc20 405927.657 12/ 14.11.2004 13:46 19Sgr38 362327.555
27.12.2004 18:58 18Cnc59 406479.916 12.12.2004 21:19 2Cap56 357990.539

2005
Apogee(km) Perigee(km)
27.12.2004 18:58 18Cnc59 406479.916 12.12.2004 21:19 2Cap56 357990.539
23.01.2005 18:37 15Cnc46 406457.043 10.01.2005 9:59 19Cap 2 356569.336
20.02.2005 4:50 17Cnc35 405833.167 1/ 7.02.2005 22:04 4Aqr50 358556.046
19.03.2005 22:49 22Cnc50 404883.107 2/ 8.03.2005 3:31 17Aqr 3 363214.736
16.04.2005 18:39 28Cnc42 404343.367 3/ 4.04.2005 11:01 17Aqr 1 368461.718
14.05.2005 13:43 4Leo10 404637.868 4/ 29.04.2005 10:19 14Cap46 68995.362
11.06.2005 6:17 8Leo43 405535.918 5/ 26.05.2005 10:49 10Cap49 364219.748
8.07.2005 17:51 11Leo12 406379.041 6/ 23.06.2005 11:52 20Cap44 359660.853
4.08.2005 22:03 10Leo19 406629.659 7/ 21.07.2005 19:49 4Aqr24 357155.422
1.09.2005 2:45 9Leo38 406192.614 8/ 19.08.2005 5:41 19Aqr 5 357398.123
28.09.2005 15:25 12Leo32 405275.074 9/ 16.09.2005 13:58 2Psc51 360418.034
26.10.2005 9:35 17Leo42 404454.998 10/ 14.10.2005 14:06 12Psc 7 365472.916
23.11.2005 6:15 23Leo52 404330.074 11/ 10.11.2005 0:27 0Psc 3 370046.248
21.12.2005 2:44 0Vir 3 404978.316 12/ 5.12.2005 4:23 0Aqr28 367391.563

Moon Apogees and Perigees in Year 2006
Apogee(km) Perigee
21.12.2005 2:44 0Vir 3 404978.316 1.01.2006 22:40 6Aqr29 361765.958
17.01.2006 18:56 4Vir29 405859.689 30.01.2006 7:44 20Aqr38 357784.803
14.02.2006 0:29 4Vir 4 406352.456 1/ 27.02.2006 20:18 6Psc36 356882.939
13.03.2006 1:30 1Vir32 406291.870 2/ 28.03.2006 7:05 21Psc35 359159.296
9.04.2006 13:09 4Vir 1 405578.804 3/ 25.04.2006 10:24 2Ari34 363713.386
7.05.2006 6:42 9Vir 2 404608.524 4/ 22.05.2006 15:16 1Ari 7 368577.003
4.06.2006 1:39 14Vir29 404120.475 5/ 16.06.2006 17:05 0Psc35 368886.279
1.07.2006 20:13 19Vir44 404484.903 6/ 13.07.2006 17:39 26Aqr45 364267.558
29.07.2006 13:08 24Vir27 405435.586 7/ 10.08.2006 18:32 6Psc29 359738.487
26.08.2006 1:33 27Vir19 406285.466 8/ 8.09.2006 3:09 20Psc21 357172.802
22.09.2006 5:36 26Vir19 406497.430 9/ 6.10.2006 14:18 5Ari33 357414.963
19.10.2006 9:46 25Vir19 406053.008 10/ 3.11.2006 23:56 19Ari56 360609.810
15.11.2006 23:25 28Vir37 405160.110 11/ 2.12.2006 0:13 29Ari16 365947.263
13.12.2006 18:56 4Lib23 404377.984 12/ 28.12.2006 2:21 12Ari29 370360.066

It's hard for me to identify any sequence. Some of them are good, other not so good but there must have something /any event/ which happens. This event can be our filter.
What do you think guys? What are your observations?

REGARDS

[scorpion]

So is it possible to predict the direction of market? or just the date time of events?