Metatrader professional programmers

[oilfxpro]

This matter is a reflection on the people trying to scam buyers with dishonest programming services.

A prgrammer offered to do a job for me. Before hiring the programmer I asked him if the job would work and he stated he had no problem delivering a good job. I paid him last October and to date he has not delivered the job in a fully working order .If he could not do the job ,he should not have promised to deliver a working Expert advisor.He also stopped relying to my emails.

I wrote several threads in which I was asking him to deliver the goods or refund my money. New Digital kept removing my threads to support scammers in deceiving me and being dishonest. I have now written another thread on FXFisherman and posted all the evidence about his programming scam services.

I would accept If a programmer came to me and explained reasons why he could not finish the job and offered a refund or offered to do alternative work in place of a refund .I do accept programmers who play games after promising to do a job and accepting money upfront.

The coder refused to refund the money and offered no alternative service in place of the defective coding work.


I am not short of 400 euros he owes but it is the principle and his attitude which annoyed me. I had to go from programmer to programmer looking for help as he would not answer emails.In addition I went through a lot of stress and anxiety. He wasted a lot of my time.His after sales service was zero.

Another programmer could not finish my jobs. This was due to personal reasons/problems .In the end I lost money on him .I never said anything against the other coder because he was having personal problems and he deserved sympathy. His attitude was always very good.

TSD owners will not allow me to post the evidence on the forum. They will delete the threads and posts .The posts and threads which are written in a civil manner will also be deleted ,if they are written against friends of TSD admin.They banned me to prevent me from exposing the TSD scammers

I hope u understand that one day these programming scammers should be exposed.I wrote on FXfisherman and Forex-tsd because I want people to know and to get the message to PROGRAMMING SCAMMERS

MORE PROGRAMMING SCAMMERS WITH DETAILED EVIDENCE COMING SOON

OILFXPRO

[oilfxpro]

Hi

here is the experience of another customer


I had bad experience with senior coder here. Never award his words and keep asking for more fees. So dont pay fees in advance just to protect yourself. In my case i pay full fees in advance.

The coder started asking more money half way through the job


oilfxpro

[heartnet]

Thats why I give project to someone that have experience but dont have websites to promote them.so they not think they are MASTER and I got one golden coder(all EA and indicator satisfied).But if someone wants me to introduce to him..PM me because he doesnt have website(yet???).
but choose yourself,lol

[oilfxpro]

Originally Posted by heartnet

but choose yourself,lol

Just cause u can use a knife , you can become a surgeon

u can use a set of pliers become a dentist

U can read a few lines of code become a programmer

U can copy and paste a few codes become a professional coder

OILFXPRO

[heartnet]

stop singing!!!!!
just kidding lol.
everyone have right to say anything here

[oilfxpro]

Originally Posted by heartnet

stop singing!!!!!
just kidding lol.
everyone have right to say anything here

Hi

I hired another programmer to code this slave master


http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/fo...master-ea.html

Just test out his work to see if he is a good programmer.

He stopped relpying to emails after delivering the job , the E A interfered with other EAS on different pairs.Was Some of the work was not delivered as per specification?

OILFXPRO

[oilfxpro]

Originally Posted by oilfxpro

Hi

I hired another programmer to code this slave master


http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/fo...master-ea.html

Just test out his work to see if he is a good programmer.

He stopped relpying to emails after delivering the job , the E A interfered with other EAS on different pairs.Was Some of the work was not delivered as per specification?

OILFXPRO

I tested his work and the slave master fails to delete pending orders and fails to close all orders on friday at 15.00

Can anybody test it out

The programmer is advertising for more work here

StrategyBuilderFX

OILFXPRO

[heartnet]

Originally Posted by oilfxpro

I tested his work and the slave master fails to delete pending orders and fails to close all orders on friday at 15.00

Can anybody test it out

The programmer is advertising for more work here

StrategyBuilderFX

OILFXPRO

Oilfxpro I kinda weird why you always been cheated.If you have anything more to code in future tell me I will let know my golden coder.I guaranteed you and you can count on my coder.

[oilfxpro]

some good guidelines for prospective purchasers of programmers for coding mechanical trading systems.

First, don't buy coding services from someone who didn't trade.


1. '"THIS IS THE FIRST OF MY TRADING COMMANDMENTS: THOU SHALT NOT BUY CODING /PROGRAMMING SERVICES FROM NON-TRADERS. PERIOD. ETCHED IN STONE."

Non-traders aren't aware of all the little nuances of trading the gotchas that will getcha when you are actually slugging it out in the markets.

several other questions to pose when evaluating the programmers that get by the first commandment:

DOES THE PROGRAMMER BEHAVE IN ACCORD WITH A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE?

Does he answer his emails promptly?

Does he ask for all the information of the trading system before quoting a price?


What are his refund conditions?Does he offer a refund for crappy coded work?I bet most do not and they will stop replying to emails.

Have you seen any of his coded work?If he can only show you indicators he coded, he may not be capable of producing a good E A.These simple indicators can be coded by the basic programmers.

Have you seen any reccomendations on the forums by independent posters?Admin will often reccomend their own friends , always visit forums and look for reviews of non admin related programmers.

Are any of his own coded strategies profitable?Test out the E A the coder produced for consistency in back testing and forward testing.Some Eas are coded to show different results for backtesting and different results for forward testing.There was an example where the E A looked for daily close , before it run the lower time frame testing.This is very unprofessional.

Look at the blacklist of programmers on this and many other forums.
http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/fo...ogrammers.html

"You must know yourself and your trading requirements before you approach any programmer," . You need to know how much it will cost, how many rules and lines of code u want to have coded ie your entry rules and exit rules. The system should be tailored to fit your style.

2. WILL THE PROGRAMER PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE CODING PERFORMS IN REAL-tIME TRADING AS WELL AS IT DOES IN PAPER-TRADING SIMULATIONS ON HISTORICAL DATA?

Ask for at least several pieces of coding work . "Sounds tough? Well, so is losing your money trading a crappy coded system," . If you want expert advisors coded ,ask to see several EX4 expert advisors and one mql file.

3. WILL THE PROGRAMMER PROVIDE THE EX4 TO YOU ON A TRIAL BASIS FOR REAL-TIME EVALUATION?

many programmers will let you trade EX4 for 30 days for around $100 and will credit the amount to the purchase price if you buy the MQL 4 files.

4. ARE THE RULES OF THE SYSTEM CODED AS PER REQUIREMENTS TO THE PURCHASER?

Some coders run their own templates and only supply standard take profit ,trailing stop and other conditions .

How much extra does it cost to have your own unique stop loss method ,trailing stop and other standard deviations from the template?

5.DOES THE PROGRAMMER REFUSE YOUR WORK OR DOES HE BEND OVER BEGGING FOR WORK WITHOUT ASKING QUESTIONS?

The Excel file which you sent me with trading rules is very hard to read and follow. I would prefer a plain document, with all requirements listed and numbered. This will certainly speed up the quotation process. Right now, requirements are scattered over the whole document, they repeat themselves making it very difficult for proper time estimation. When the document is ready we will need to review it and make sure that all requirements are understood correctly. Right now, I am afraid that I would refuse the project based on the current documentation.



Another great resource for finding out about programmers, are other traders in the online forums who may have purchased these programming services. If you Find a programmer that meets all the requirements listed here, you can go onto one of these forums and ask if anyone has experience with the programmer

Although this technology makes "sharing" a programmers work easy, it would be wrong to ask another trader to provide you with a programmers's work, as it would be to accept such an offer. If your own system is any good, your profitable trading will more than repay you for the money paid to the programmer. If the programmer did a great job, the the programmer certainly deserves to be compensated for creating it.



It also is good to remember that there is nothing new under the sun. Many of the programable systems are readily available for sale on the market today ,or are freely available , on Web pages. Like the online communities, sometimes you have to sort through a lot of useless information, but the effort, , can be rewarding.

OILFXPRO

[oilfxpro]

part II

some good guidelines for prospective purchasers of programmers for coding mechanical trading systems.

Most programmers will not give a telephone number.Enquire to see if they provide a contact number

Some programmers will become available on skype or reply to emails only to collect the money.Check them out thoroughly before sending any money.They will only reply to new enquiries to collect the money,in which case avoid these guys as they are unlikely to give any after sales service

Most programmers only work part time .They take time off from servicing clients on a regular basis,and take on other contract work ,in which case you will not get the service you require.If you have a very large project ie 10 expert advisors+ 10 indicators,the programmers will regularly dissapear during the development period,you will get regular service disruptions

OILFXPRO